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	<title>Comments on: Collaboration: All Talk, Little Walk</title>
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		<title>By: Jacob Hinmon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob Hinmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, even more difficult when one of the parties isn&#039;t interested in collaboration. Now all that&#039;s left to do is fight for everything! Don&#039;t give up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, even more difficult when one of the parties isn&#8217;t interested in collaboration. Now all that&#8217;s left to do is fight for everything! Don&#8217;t give up.</p>
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		<title>By: Caroline Drake Calkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caroline Drake Calkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 03:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This may be a bit late of a reply, but I was thinking about this today as I met with the team I&#039;m collaborating with on a video game. It&#039;s an interesting situation - only the guy who hired me has ever worked with a writer on a game before, and the rest of them really have no idea of what I will offer or contribute to the final product. Writing/narrative design is a new type of career in that industry, and no one knows what to expect. So I find myself fighting for every inch of ground, carving a space out of an existing structure to try to improve and enhance what they&#039;re doing without insinuating that they don&#039;t know how to tell good stories. I&#039;m definitely finding opportunities to stretch, I hope they&#039;ll do the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may be a bit late of a reply, but I was thinking about this today as I met with the team I&#8217;m collaborating with on a video game. It&#8217;s an interesting situation &#8211; only the guy who hired me has ever worked with a writer on a game before, and the rest of them really have no idea of what I will offer or contribute to the final product. Writing/narrative design is a new type of career in that industry, and no one knows what to expect. So I find myself fighting for every inch of ground, carving a space out of an existing structure to try to improve and enhance what they&#8217;re doing without insinuating that they don&#8217;t know how to tell good stories. I&#8217;m definitely finding opportunities to stretch, I hope they&#8217;ll do the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That Louis CK clip is incredible. &quot;You watch a movie, take a crap and you&#039;re home.&quot; &quot;Well, there are nicer ways to put that...&quot;

I know exactly what you&#039;re talking about regarding the &quot;group&quot; project reality in school. I drove around one night in high school, frantically looking for my group members to do a project that was due the next day because none of them were answering their phones. Turns out, they were driving around filming random stuff to use for our presentation. I know this because while I was filling up my car with gas, they drove circles around me at the gas station, filming me and laughing at how pissed I was that they were just goofing around instead of working on the project. (After all, it&#039;s just for a grade that could possibly affect my GETTING INTO COLLEGE!) I was never able to meet up with them, which was great, because we had a presentation the next day in class. At school, I asked them if we could get together at lunch and edit the video while going over what we were going to talk about the next period. They weren&#039;t up for that (too much effort) and they told me they had already edited the video. I ended up being the main presenter and had to explain how a 5 minute video (which I was seeing for the first time) made up of a car chase on the streets of Shoreline, random footage of people hanging out in a car, and me swearing at the camera as it drove around me in circles, sufficiently explained Existentialism.  

I think we got a &#039;C&#039;... maybe a &#039;B-&#039;. We should have failed, but my teacher was probably just impressed that we did anything at all. Again, an entitled generation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That Louis CK clip is incredible. &#8220;You watch a movie, take a crap and you&#8217;re home.&#8221; &#8220;Well, there are nicer ways to put that&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I know exactly what you&#8217;re talking about regarding the &#8220;group&#8221; project reality in school. I drove around one night in high school, frantically looking for my group members to do a project that was due the next day because none of them were answering their phones. Turns out, they were driving around filming random stuff to use for our presentation. I know this because while I was filling up my car with gas, they drove circles around me at the gas station, filming me and laughing at how pissed I was that they were just goofing around instead of working on the project. (After all, it&#8217;s just for a grade that could possibly affect my GETTING INTO COLLEGE!) I was never able to meet up with them, which was great, because we had a presentation the next day in class. At school, I asked them if we could get together at lunch and edit the video while going over what we were going to talk about the next period. They weren&#8217;t up for that (too much effort) and they told me they had already edited the video. I ended up being the main presenter and had to explain how a 5 minute video (which I was seeing for the first time) made up of a car chase on the streets of Shoreline, random footage of people hanging out in a car, and me swearing at the camera as it drove around me in circles, sufficiently explained Existentialism.  </p>
<p>I think we got a &#8216;C&#8217;&#8230; maybe a &#8216;B-&#8217;. We should have failed, but my teacher was probably just impressed that we did anything at all. Again, an entitled generation.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob Hinmon</title>
		<link>http://www.fourplusoneproductions.com/post/1207/comment-page-1#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob Hinmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 18:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s hard to not take things personally, and to be truly open to things getting better through more input. In this age of the internet, there&#039;s really no limit to the input we can get. It&#039;s a bit akin to the need for PR/ad women (and men) to let go of control of the message a bit. Let it go, things will be ok. And maybe better in the process? Thanks for sparking the idea Jennifer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s hard to not take things personally, and to be truly open to things getting better through more input. In this age of the internet, there&#8217;s really no limit to the input we can get. It&#8217;s a bit akin to the need for PR/ad women (and men) to let go of control of the message a bit. Let it go, things will be ok. And maybe better in the process? Thanks for sparking the idea Jennifer.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 17:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Jake!  I was just working on another post in reference to a favorite blogger, Bob Sutton.  On his site he has posted, &quot;15 Things I Believe&quot;.  Number 2 is, &quot;Indifference is as important as passion.&quot;  Which says to me, it&#039;s not that you don&#039;t care what happens.  But that you set aside your agenda to be open to other&#039;s ideas and to what is truly possible! Collaboration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Jake!  I was just working on another post in reference to a favorite blogger, Bob Sutton.  On his site he has posted, &#8220;15 Things I Believe&#8221;.  Number 2 is, &#8220;Indifference is as important as passion.&#8221;  Which says to me, it&#8217;s not that you don&#8217;t care what happens.  But that you set aside your agenda to be open to other&#8217;s ideas and to what is truly possible! Collaboration.</p>
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		<title>By: Harold Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harold Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 16:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very insightful post, Jake... I have to agree with you that a big issue seems to be that people haven&#039;t been taught how to be on a team; or, perhaps more appropriately, how to work with others towards a greater good than something that will simply benefit themselves.  Perhaps it&#039;s generational, perhaps its just the &quot;Me&quot; culture/ generation... but it makes collaborative experiences (like ours on the First Fed commercial) that much more rewarding, as they&#039;ve come to be the exception instead of the rule.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very insightful post, Jake&#8230; I have to agree with you that a big issue seems to be that people haven&#8217;t been taught how to be on a team; or, perhaps more appropriately, how to work with others towards a greater good than something that will simply benefit themselves.  Perhaps it&#8217;s generational, perhaps its just the &#8220;Me&#8221; culture/ generation&#8230; but it makes collaborative experiences (like ours on the First Fed commercial) that much more rewarding, as they&#8217;ve come to be the exception instead of the rule.</p>
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